Review: Liga Privada JD4 (Preproduction)


(Editor’s Note: This is the first in a new series of reviews called “Face Off” Reviews…The basic idea behind these reviews is that there will be two reviews of the exact same cigar, side by side, to show the difference in how different reviewers react differently to the same cigar…These reviews will always feature two separate people, and the cigars chosen to be reviewed will be from the same box, bundle or purchased at the same time, when at all possible…The reviewers have NOT seen each other’s notes or review until after both reviews are already written…Let us know what you think… —brooks.)

About six months ago, there were sightings and mentions of a new preproduction blend that the guys over at Drew Estate were handing out to specific people. Dubbed the “JD4″, it is a 6 x 52ish cigar that uses the same stalk-cut wrapper (and shares quite a bit of the same characteristics) as the much loved T52 blend.

I asked Steve Saka, President of Drew Estate cigars, for a little more information about the blend, and he wrote me quite a bit more then I expected…He explained things wonderfully, so I am just going to quote what he wrote:

The “JD4″ is a liga that was developed as part of the original T52 blending process utilizing the same stalk-cut CT Habano capa.

While it shares the same capa, capote and base as the blend finally chosen to be the T52, the blend of Viso and Ligero is more Esteli-centric resulting in an even spicier, stronger smoking experience. Ultimately it was a very tough decision for JD and myself to choose between the blend, internally just referred to casually in the factory as “muestra cuatro” that was to become branded as T52 as you know it and what was the “muestra” has now become known internally as the “JD4″.

Both blends in our opinions are excellent and either could have been the ultimate T52 blend, but one had to be chosen.

We chose the “3″ because universally it was love by almost all the people we shared it with in the preproduction phase, whereas the “4″ was rabidly loved by some, but too overwhelming for others. This left the “4″ blend to be made in small batches, mostly for Jonathan hence the “JD4″ moniker, as I personally OD’ing on the “Dirty Rat” at the time. Even now, Jon smokes the JD4 relentlessly and I remain a Dirty Rat fiend, so it is regarded more as “his” Liga Privada. That being said, I smoked a JD4 for breakfast today and loved it.

Now with the advent of the Único line, we are -considering- adding it to the portfolio, but we are unlikely to make that determination until early next spring. We right now have a plethora of really exceptional blends that have resulted for our developing the Liga Privada series, so it is difficult for us to pick and choose which to move forward with for full commercial production, but currently “JD4″ is a potential candidate.

Worst case scenario, JD4 will remain an great cigar we continue to make in small personal batches to share with friends.

I find the blending and selection process of new blends absolutely fascinating, and we are extremely happy to have some of these to review…

In fact, for those that missed it the first time, here is what a “Bundle” of JD4s looks like…

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And for your reference, here is the JD4 beside a T52…

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But enough of that, let’s get down to business, shall we?

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  • Cigars Reviewed: Liga Privada “JD4″ Preproduction
  • Country of Origin: Nicaragua
  • Factory: La Gran Fabrica Drew Estate
  • Wrapper: stalk-cut Connecticut habano
  • Binder: Nicaragua
  • Filler: Nicaragua
  • Size: 6 Inches
  • Ring Gauge: 52
  • Vitola: Toroish
  • Est. Price: N/A
  • Number of Cigars Smoked for Review: 14 (Between the two of us)

Prelight

Brooks: This is a very nicely constructed cigar…Wrapper is a very dark brown and is quite rough to the touch…There is quite a bit of oil present, and it smells strongly of Dark, bitter chocolate and espresso…It is very firm when squeezed, but not quite what I would call Rock hard…Predraw brings sweet wood and pepper…

Steve: Visually this cigar is very sturdy looking. The wrapper is a dark chocolate color with a red tint to it common with liga privada cigars. The wrapper is very smooth with very little tooth (however I have smoked some with a great amount of tooth so it varies a bit) and an oily sheen. It has a seamless wrap and is very firm to the touch. There are a few noticeable veins although you can’t feel them at all. The Pre light aroma is full of leather, chocolate and ah doughy bread like note. The pre light draw is mild with tobacco and chocolate notes. I also get a touch of that bread character from the pre light aroma.

First Third

Brooks: The JD4 starts out with strong notes of espresso, pepper and a bit of leather…there is also quite a bit of pepper in the retrohale…But not overwhelming power or pepper, and there is a bit of a floral note as well, at the end of the 1st third…

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Steve: Starting off in the first third the cigar ignites fast. It puts off massive amounts of smoke from the very beginning. This is common with liga privadas but it’s even more prevalent with this cigar. The thick clouds of smoke give way to a solid cedar flavor as well as a bit of a pepper kick on my tongue. The finish is long but a bit on the dry side and I get a touch of leather towards the end.

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Second Third

Brooks: Flavors are pretty consistent with the first third…The profile does seem to turn a bit more earthy, and the pepper from the start of the cigar is way down, to almost nothing…Still chocolate (dark), leather and espresso, really not much change…However, I did notice the strength increasing at the end of the 2nd third, if only a bit…

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Steve: Coming into the second third the cigars is producing billowing clouds of smoke, not only when I take a draw but as it sits it’s just pouring with smoke. The profile at this point is still full of cedar as well as leather, coffee and a touch of chocolate sweetness towards the end of the finish. The pepper has mellowed but the cigar is full of strength as I can already feel the nicotine hit me. The flavors are very mellow compared to the strength and I’m finding it a bit unbalanced however I am still enjoying it. The burn is great and the ash holds well.

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Last Third

Brooks: The cigar is definitely stronger throughout the last third…Flavors are pretty much the same for the entire cigar, just really not much change at all…It never got harsh at the end, but did seem to get a bit more bitter a the VERY end…

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Steve: Finishing up in the second third I can’t say I really detected any kind of change except for the coffee note has turned into more of a black coffee as there is a hint of bitterness on the finish. Cedar, leather, coffee and chocolate make up the profile and it’s a solid profile but the flavors don’t quite meld together like they should. The whole profile seems a bit unbalanced.

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Final Notes

Brooks:

  • This cigar produces smoke like a house on fire…I don’t know what DE does to their tobacco, but their sticks are ALWAYS huge smokers…
  • I smoked 8 JD4s for this review, and every one of them is amazingly consistent to each other, in flavors, profile, strength, draw and burn…
  • As with almost every Liga Privada I have smoked, the burn and draw are Perfect and effortless…
  • Final Smoking Time was 1 Hour and 55 Minutes…

Steve:

  • Jonathan Drew has stated that this is a beefed up version of the t 52. I can definitely sense that, it’s a very similar profile to the t 52 however I feel like the flavors have been compromised while the strength was kicked up. It is definitely stronger than the t 52 but I found the flavors to be much more muted and less complex than the t 52. In this case I would prefer to smoke the t 52 but I still found this to be a good cigar…
  • The construction is everything you would expect from a liga privada. The burn, the draw and the smoke output were all top notch…
  • Final Smoking time was 1 hour 47 minutes…

The Bottom Line

Brooks: The problem with the Liga Privada JD4 comes not from the fact that it is a bad cigar (far from it, actually), but that it will constantly be compared to DEs earlier and much better blends…It is not as complex as what I have come to expect from the Liga Privada line, and the whole time I was smoking each of the JD4s for this review, I was constantly thinking to myself “Wow, this is an ok cigar, but I really wish I had a “Dirty Rat”/”Flying Pig”/#9/ T52 right about now”…In some ways this comparison is inevitable, as it is the newest blend, but honestly, it is a bit sad to me…the JD4 (as it is blended now) is good enough to stand on it’s own, but it falls far short of it’s brothers in the line…

Steve: I am really on the fence with this cigar. I have smoked roughly 5 or 6 of them and I have definitely enjoyed every one I have smoked. The problem is I would pick the t 52 over this cigar. I don’t think it comes close to the complexity or flavor of the t 52. That is not to say this isn’t a good cigar because it is. I think they could release these and have a great following and I think it would fall nicely into the lineup. I like the strength and I love the smoke output and the flavors aren’t bad at all, they just need to be less muted and more in your face. If they could just tweak the profile a touch to get the flavors to match up to the strength they would have a much better cigar. I can’t help but feel this is an unfinished cigar, you know, a blend in the works and perhaps we will see a JD #6 next year and perhaps then it will be worthy of the Liga Privada name.

(Editor’s Note: There will be no Final Score given, as this is a Preproduction blend, and has not been finalized for release to the public. When and if this cigar is officially released, we will rereview it, and give it a final score at that time. —brooks.)

50 comments
Frank
Frank

Great review, as always. I really like the side by side format, as well as the regular reviews, and lean & means.

benzopyrene
benzopyrene

It's a hit! Nice reviews guys. Interested in smoking mine now, as I thought the LP9 and T52 were good, but a little too much, maybe I will enjoy this one more. Cheers!

Andy K
Andy K

I hope I'm not to late to win. Thanks for the review.

Joe45
Joe45

Great review, guys. I like the style of this one.

Tim
Tim

Good job fellas.

Logan
Logan

Nice review!

Jacob
Jacob

Really like this review style. I hope you fellas keep doing it.

FastTX
FastTX

Is it anything like an Acid Blondie?

Serious question...

keith
keith

great review!, a wealth of information

bocker
bocker

can't wait to give one of these a try...the T52 and #9 and two of my favorite smokes

donutboy2000
donutboy2000

I like the face-off format. It has potential even though both sets of comments were very similar this time.

ron
ron

cant wait to try these.

cucumber.breath
cucumber.breath

Nice review!!! I can't wait to get my hands on some!

Aizuddin Danian
Aizuddin Danian

Looks like a great cigar, dark and rich. Thanks for the awesome review!

Skinny
Skinny

Love the Face off review. Can't wait to smoke a new Liga Privada.

Cateacher
Cateacher

Love the face off concept! Great reviews guys!

James
James

This review format is excellent, it is good to get a better feel for the differences between the two reviewers, and to get a second opinion on a cigar. With all of the good Liga Privada reviews you give I'm going to have to try them!

Austin_Smoker
Austin_Smoker

COMMENT, COMMENT, COMMENT!! Pick me! :)

Great review!

ckay
ckay

That was a cool review concept. A lot of similarities, and differences in the experience as well. I look forward to some more.

Guy
Guy

Great review guys, side by side was and is a great Idea.

I hope we'll see some more ,a very interesting & original concept.

Guy,
France

jpm
jpm

Sounds like the ship has already sailed on the best DE blends, and we already have access to them. I won't stress too much when jd4 comes out (if it does)

Robert
Robert

Like the side-by-side review format, two opinions at once. Thanks!

Keith1911
Keith1911

Great review guys. I'd be curious to try it as I'm not a fan of the T-52 but really like the No. 9.

Luca
Luca

Love this review style!

Sully
Sully

great review...thanks for getting me through another ordinary day on the grind!

Ryan B
Ryan B

Keep up the dual reviews!!

greg
greg

i still need to try an LP

Mr.Goodfella
Mr.Goodfella

I like the head to head reviews, nicely done.

bowhnter
bowhnter

I like that dual review, thanks

Matt C
Matt C

Awesome format. I love the side by side review. Very well done, and an very interesting read.

-Matt

Ricky67
Ricky67

Great review guys. What a disappointment.Go "RAIDERS"

SOUNDWAVE
SOUNDWAVE

Nicely done guys! I like the back-and-forth of the review and seeing how your impressions differed. Heard alot of buzz about these & will try it if I ever have a chance as I do enjoy the T52 & Dirty Rat though i confess to not beeing the biggest fan of the #9 & Flying Pig. Keep up the good work!

Kaz646
Kaz646

Great review guys. I really did enjoy getting both of your perspectives on this at the same time. I don't have much experience with this line, only have tried the #9 and thought it to be a good smoke. Anyways, thanks for the review guys. Keep up the good work!

Cigar Seeker
Cigar Seeker

Very, very interesting review style. My only disappointment was the lack of a score.-I like to try to guess what it will be. My guesses here: Brooks would have rated this at about 86, Steve at around 84.

axi
axi

I particularly enjoyed this head-to-head smoke off idea. I hope to see more of it. Perhaps with some aged cigars to see what different palates pull from a cigar with some years under its belt.

ptreed
ptreed

Great job reviewing this cigar. I have a handful of the JD4's but have not yet smoked one. Now I know what to expect.
Thanks
ptreed

Steve Saka
Steve Saka

ps: Thanks for the review - always love reading this site - it is one of my personal favs!!!

STS

Steve Saka
Steve Saka

Quick correction - this cigar was/is 6 x 52, not a 56. No 56 rings were made in this blend ever. There were some 60 ringers made to try, but only about 20 of them in total...

Quick comment - IMO, I agree with the comments, the JD4 blend -does- trade some nuance for strength, every blend is a compromise to achieve the desired smoking experience. I believe that some people will find the JD4 to be a "better" cigar than the existing T52 blend because they desire the higher overall octane it delivers. It all comes down to what you personally want from a cigar... I refer everyone back to the my original comments regarding the blend that are quoted above. The JD4 is definitely -not- for everyone!

That is why I always say, "if you blend a cigar that everyone will like, you are never creating one that someone will love."

BR,

Steve Saka
President, Drew Estate

Travis
Travis

Great idea. Thanks for the reviews.

d quintero
d quintero

hmmm,

so how many puffs do yall take on average before you pass the cigar
over to each other?

thanks!

Vipernpa
Vipernpa

Interesting to see how the both of you review cigars at the same time. Good format!

Justin
Justin

I love the idea of the "Faceoff" reviews. Thanks for all the work you do on this site!

CPStaley
CPStaley

Interesting review comment. Very cool to see two sets of comments side by side.

JamesTF
JamesTF

Great dual review. Another massive cigar, 6 * 56 - wow!

Ryan
Ryan

Thanks for the great review guys. Disappointed to hear it's not all that and a bag of chips, though. Definitely wouldn't complain about winning one of these sticks, though. Thanks for giving us the opportunity!

Mike Thrane
Mike Thrane

Cool review style. Interesting to be able to compare notes from both of you. Thanks.

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