Review: My Father Flor de las Antillas Toro

On March 16, 2012, My Father showed off their newest creation, Flor de las Antillas, for the first time at Federal Cigar’s 91st anniversary party. Not much was known about the release at that time, but more details have emerged since then.

We now know that the Flor de las Antillas is a Nicaraguan puro line with a name honoring Cuba, which is sometimes known as the flower of the Antilles, thus Flor de las Antillas. The name refers to the Antilles Islands, which are part of the West Indies located in the Caribbean Sea, and also include Jamaica, Haiti, the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico.

José Ortega of My Father told London Cigar Aficionados:

It is a new line in full production. The cigar is fantastic. Nice and smooth. Has a rich cocoa flavor. 3/4 strength. Beautiful white ash with a great finish.


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Here is the artwork being used for the My Father Flor de las Antillas line:

Flor de Las Antillas by My Father

(Artwork via London Cigar Aficionados)


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The My Father Flor de las Antillas is expected to debut in four vitolas, each being sold in boxes of 20 and priced between $6.60 and $8.70 for each cigar. They are:

  • Belicoso — (5 1/2 x 52)
  • Robusto — (5 x 50)
  • Toro — (6 x 52)
  • Toro Gordo — (6 1/2 x 56)


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But enough about that, let’s get down to business, shall we?

My Father Flor de las Antillas Toro 1

  • Cigar Reviewed: My Father Flor de las Antillas Toro
  • Country of Origin: Nicaragua
  • Factory: My Father Cigars S.A.
  • Wrapper: Nicaraguan Sun Grown
  • Binder: Nicaragua
  • Filler: Nicaragua
  • Size: 6 Inches
  • Ring Gauge: 52
  • Vitola: Toro
  • MSRP: n/a
  • Release Date: March 16, 2012
  • Number of Cigars Released: Regular Production
  • Number of Cigars Smoked for Review: 2

The My Father Flor de las Antillas is a nice looking stick with a rounded box-press, along with a cinnamon brown wrapper that is rough and dry to the touch. In fact, the wrapper feels almost parchment like and smells strongly of barnyard, coca, espresso and leather. It is slightly spongy when squeezed, but well within normal limits. Of note, the cap looks pretty hastily applied.

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The first third of the My Father Flor de las Antillas starts off with a fairly significant amount of leather, espresso and generic wood. There is a small amount of black pepper and spice in the first few puffs, but they quickly recede to a distant background note. The draw is a bit loose at first, but begins to tighten up nicely by the end of the third. The burn is a bit wavy, but nothing horrible. Strength ends the first third at a very mild medium and does not seem to be getting much stronger.

My Father Flor de las Antillas Toro 2

While the main flavors of wood and leather remain the same in the second third, the profile adds a bit of general sweetness that is nice to taste. Unfortunately, it is just not a strong enough note to really impact the overall flavor. The draw is tightens up as predicted, the burn is fine and the strength is a steady medium and I doubt it will go much higher. On the retrohale, the pepper is barely noticeable. As for the finish, it’s nice and smooth.

My Father Flor de las Antillas Toro 3

The final third of the Flor de las Antillas just does not change at all: the same main flavors, the same general sweetness, the same construction and the same strength. It is essentially a carbon copy of the second third and there is really not much more to say about it.

My Father Flor de las Antillas Toro 4

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Final Notes:

  • As mentioned above, two of the four vitolas the Flor de las Antillas were first sold in unbanded bundles at an event held at one of our sponsors, Federal Cigar last month. In fact, they still have some of the prerelease Toro Gordos (6 1/2 x 56) in stock but are sold out of the Toro (6 x 52).
  • Cuba is the largest of the Antilles islands. Interestingly, according to Wikipedia: Geographically, the Antilles are generally considered part of North America or Central America. Culturally speaking, the Antillean countries of Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico are included in Latin America.
  • The artwork for this My Father release has been updated from a version used in the early 20th century.
  • As mentioned above, all four of the vitolas will be box pressed, the first full line from My Father to be fully box-pressed. Last year, My Father released their first box-pressed My Father at IPCPR 2011 in the form of the My Father Le Bijou 1922 Torpedo.
  • I was honestly surprised at just how much this does not taste like your standard My Father blend. In a blind tasting, I guarantee 99% of people would never guess who made this cigar. Some people are going to love this fact, and some people are going to hate it.
  • While the Flor de las Antillas was supposed to ship sometime in early April, rumors are that delays with production of the bands, which are likely to be quite intricate, have caused the release to be pushed back to sometime in May.
  • It is worth mentioning that the signature black pepper and spice notes that were present in the first few puffs of the cigar were nowhere near the amount that is in most of the My Father blends.
  • Construction on both samples was fine, and although the draw on both samples started off a bit loose, they tightened up by the middle of the smoke. The burn had a tendency to waver, but was good overall.
  • There is quite a bit of smoke production in the two samples I smoked, more than I was expecting for sure.
  • The final smoking time for both sticks was right around one hour and 25 minutes.
  • If you would like to purchase any of the My Father Flor de las Antillas, site sponsors Atlantic Cigar and Casa de Montecristo, Federal Cigar, Tobacco Grove and Tobacco Locker are all My Father retailers and will presumably have them in stock as soon as they are available. As of now, the only place to purchase the My Father Flor de las Antillas is Federal Cigar (877.424.4270), who only has Toro Gordos available. Don’t forget to tell them halfwheel sent you.

The Bottom Line: The Flor de las Antillas reveals in exactly what it is: a simple, no frills option, both in terms of price and profile. It is good, smooth profile, but far from great. While I was not overly impressed with this cigar, I do think that it fills a niche that My Father has in its lineup: an easy to smoke, medium-bodied, cheaper cigar that does not have the typical My Father pepper throughout the smoke. The main problem remains, even at that price point ($6.60-$8.70), there are many other cigars that offer more in terms of complexity, flavors and construction.


Final Score: 82

18 comments
Cadillac
Cadillac

"The main problem remains, even at that price point ($6.60-$8.70), there are many other cigars that offer more in terms of complexity, flavors and construction."

Perhaps include some examples?.......

CigrGy
CigrGy

Not a top spot holder. We all know it.

SIGLO_VI
SIGLO_VI

Hmm, Cigar of the Year???

Charlie Minato
Charlie Minato moderator like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @NM1234  @Imthewheeler  @thecigarmafia Just so we are clear, we try to take personal bias out as much as possible: Brian and I don't subtract points because a cigar is not a Lancero, Brooks doesn't take off points because it's not limited, etc. Obviously it's impossible to remove it entirely, but we are attempting to complete a task that is entirely subjective.As for sugar-coating reviews, I'd like to think that we don't do that, it seems particularly odd given the last review Brooks did of a My Father product is to date the lowest score of any cigar on halfwheel.Nolan, people scoring cigars they have a vested interest in selling seems like a poor choice.

NM1234
NM1234

@Charlie Minato While I appreciate the response, the cigar that Brooks gave the lowest score in Halfwheel history was in the shape of a baseball bat. That doesn't seem that odd actually. I still enjoy the site but like all blogs it is important to know where the authors bias lies as a consumer.

Nolan
Nolan

Just because someone blogs on cigars, doesn't mean they know how to score them, talk to your retailer if you're looking for info, you'll learn a lot more

Walshy23
Walshy23

Yeah cause a retailer is never just trying to make a sale. I'd say 90% of cigar bloggers keep it as fair as possible. I do agree that there are some cigars in the top 10 of Cigar Afficianados list that dont belong in the top 50. i.e. the Rome y Julietta. They definitely have an agenda. Check out Cigarobsession. He is the best.

NM1234
NM1234

I've never read such a kind review of a cigar you gave a score of 82! This review fills a niche for your website.

Holman
Holman

@NM1234 I thought it read more like a 78... Are you saying it read higher?

Imthewheeler
Imthewheeler

I like the back and forth... But I agree... You can tell if HW is giving a glowing review vs a less favorable review, especially vs most bloggers reviewing cigars.I don't see this as being glowing. If you were a noob, you might not see through it, but it's not a typical cigar blog and if you are complaining, you know cigar ratings are not an absolute rating scheme. There is a lot of wiggle room that allows for preferences, taste, mood, # smokes of the day, time of the dat, etc. I hold these ratings from HW in higher regard compared to most blogs, understanding that personal preferences will come into play. For example, I love Padron Nat 3k's as my everyday smoke and the first smoke to give to a noob. Not very complex, not pretty, flavor is consistent throughout, but great all around smoke (for the online price)... and afterwards it doesn't taste like someone took a dump in your mouth. It's is a great value smoke, but may not fit everyone's flavor/preference. I doubt it would get much love being reviewed on this blog, but I think they have set the bar pretty high. Brooks says the new MF fills a niche, prob not a niche he likes. Reviewing something not in your preference but being objective enough to know it will relate to others is prob some of the hardest reviews to give, especially in such a preference based market as this (and esp with a MF cigar where you expect pepper). I think this is review of a cigar that doesn't fit Brooks  preference, but might be good to someone else. I might actually consider this one if I'm playing poker or golf and focusing on something other than a smoke's nuances. It's gotta be better than the same price smokes in the pro shop, and I get to try something different.

thecigarmafia
thecigarmafia

I have a very "plain" palette.  From time to time I do pick up the subtle flavors, but for the most part, I stick to defining the core flavors.  Wood, earth, grass, pepper, sweet (sugar and fruit), leather, etc.

 

Brooks can define the really subtle flavors, and I believe he enjoys that complexity in a cigar.  To ME, it's not as important.  I put a lot of value in a good burn, heavy smoke production, and great tasting core flavors.  Even if the cigar is very 1D in terms of flavor, if its smokes and burns well, I will enjoy it.  I tend to smoke a lot of smaller cigars for that reason, then I don't get bored.  If I want a different flavor, i'll smoke another cigar :-)

 

 

thecigarmafia
thecigarmafia

And what "niche" is that?

NM1234
NM1234

@thecigarmafia "The sugar coated review of another overpriced/subpar cigar from My Father Cigars" niche

Charlie Minato
Charlie Minato moderator

@NM1234@thecigarmafia

So I was actually kind of interested to see what the numbers said because unlike say Tatuaje, which Brooks (and the rest of halfwheel) has consistently rated very highly, I wouldn't name My Father one of Brook's "pet brands."

So, according to the numbers, Brooks' scores for all DPG/My Father/Jaime Garcia/La Dueña products 1.23 points higher than the halfwheel average score for all cigars with the 25 point baseball bat review removed from the equation. For those wondering, with the Baseball Bat in the average he is about 2.7 below the halfwheel average.

Comparing My Father to Brooks' personal averages without the Baseball Bat he is 1.08 points higher on My Father products compared to his average and with it included My Father products score 2.78 points lower on average compared to Brooks' total reviews.

Finally, comparing every DPG/My Father/etc amongst all halfwheel reviews to the halfwheel average, the DPG/My Father products have scored .1496 points lower than the halfwheel average.

Just in case you are wondering, amongst all reviewers the average Havana Cellars score is 3.74 points higher than the halfwheel average.

I have always believed that reviews should be judged by their enthusiasm, which I think you did in this case and I ultimately believe that enthusiasm is a better judge than score. That being said, people like numbers and I believe halfwheel has the easiest way to access and sort our scores amongst cigar blogs, although it's a double edge sword. Perhaps more on that later.

 

thecigarmafia
thecigarmafia

I hear ya.  I know Brooks is a big fan of Tat/MF in general.  I think the "pepin kick" fits his profile.  The review wasn't critical, I think it was just kind of "plain."  Just like the cigar.  The cigar sounds like, based on the review, a pretty straight forward cigar with some decent flavors, but probably not worth the price.

 

And for me, I will stay away at that price point.  You can do very well flavor wise in that $7-8 price range, that's for sure.

NM1234
NM1234

@thecigarmafia I'm a fan of Halfwheel. Just feel like this website gives My Father Cigars less than critical reviews of certain brands, this being one of them. While not much sugar was in the last line, the previous paragraphs contained too much for a cigar that was rated 82. Cigars that were rated higher by this blog receive much more just scrutiny than this one.

thecigarmafia
thecigarmafia

 @NM1234  The last line reads: "The main problem remains, even at that price point ($6.60-$8.70), there are many other cigars that offer more in terms of complexity, flavors and construction."

 

Unless i'm wrong, that tells me the cigar is over priced for what it offers.  Not sure how much "sugar" was in that line.

Holman
Holman

@NM1234 I agree my father cigars are over rated.. But I think of all the blogs HW does not sugar coat.